Outo ongelma, 250 tärisee pärisee värisee surisee.

[jesi]

Edit: korjaantui, fc teipillä kiinni.



Kirjoitan tämän viestin ns lyhyesti ja sekavasti, kun nukkumatti ollut kateissa.

Alkujaan vehkeet toimi ok, kaikki default pidit jne cfässä with SPRF3 evo, sn20 päästi savut wattien mittauksessa niin vaihdoin Sunrise Cicada 30a blheli_s noparit ja dyssin se2205 koneet.
Mitään muutoksia ei tehty FC puolella raudan vaihdon yhteydessä.

Romut paikallee ja lopputulema tämä:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qpQpD2Amb4

Jos moottoreita ajaa motor välilehden kautta käsin, toimii silkin pehmeästi.
Laitteella ei ole edes torpattu


Loppuviimen laitoin sisään bf 2.9 vakio pideillä, blheliä koitettu 16.0 ja 16.2, ei vaikutusta.
8ghz koitettu myös, anti_desync_power_step ruuvattu, jne.

Jotain räpsyjä aiheesta:
https://1drv.ms/f/s!Ak1VUWZVr8wh0RWBafWhEDrLisy3

$M>YtARM;ANGLE;HORIZON;AIR MODE;DISABLE 3D SWITCH;MAG;HEADFREE;HEADADJ;BEEPER;OSD SW;FAILSAFE;|$M&gteû

?$M&gtn}ÿ
Entering CLI Mode, type 'exit' to return, or 'help'

# dump

# version
# BetaFlight/SPRACINGF3EVO 2.9.0 Jun 25 2016 / 23:45:39 (3d9b180)
# dump master

# mixer
mixer QUADX
mmix reset
smix reset


# feature
feature -RX_PPM
feature -VBAT
feature -INFLIGHT_ACC_CAL
feature -RX_SERIAL
feature -MOTOR_STOP
feature -SERVO_TILT
feature -SOFTSERIAL
feature -GPS
feature -FAILSAFE
feature -SONAR
feature -TELEMETRY
feature -CURRENT_METER
feature -3D
feature -RX_PARALLEL_PWM
feature -RX_MSP
feature -RSSI_ADC
feature -LED_STRIP
feature -DISPLAY
feature -ONESHOT125
feature -BLACKBOX
feature -CHANNEL_FORWARDING
feature -TRANSPONDER
feature -AIRMODE
feature -SUPEREXPO_RATES
feature VBAT
feature RX_SERIAL
feature MOTOR_STOP
feature FAILSAFE
feature TELEMETRY
feature CURRENT_METER
feature RSSI_ADC
feature ONESHOT125
feature SUPEREXPO_RATES


# beeper
beeper GYRO_CALIBRATED
beeper RX_LOST
beeper RX_LOST_LANDING
beeper DISARMING
beeper ARMING
beeper ARMING_GPS_FIX
beeper BAT_CRIT_LOW
beeper BAT_LOW
beeper GPS_STATUS
beeper RX_SET
beeper ACC_CALIBRATION
beeper ACC_CALIBRATION_FAIL
beeper READY_BEEP
beeper MULTI_BEEPS
beeper DISARM_REPEAT
beeper ARMED
beeper SYSTEM_INIT
beeper ON_USB


# map
map TAER1234


# serial
serial 20 1 115200 57600 0 115200
serial 0 32 115200 57600 0 115200
serial 1 64 115200 57600 0 115200
serial 2 1 115200 57600 0 115200


# led
led 0 15,15:ES:IA:0
led 1 15,8:E:WF:0
led 2 15,7:E:WF:0
led 3 15,0:NE:IA:0
led 4 8,0:N:F:0
led 5 7,0:N:F:0
led 6 0,0:NW:IA:0
led 7 0,7:W:WF:0
led 8 0,8:W:WF:0
led 9 0,15:SW:IA:0
led 10 7,15:S:WF:0
led 11 8,15:S:WF:0
led 12 7,7:U:WF:0
led 13 8,7:U:WF:0
led 14 7,8:D:WF:0
led 15 8,8:D:WF:0
led 16 8,9::R:3
led 17 9,10::R:3
led 18 10,11::R:3
led 19 10,12::R:3
led 20 9,13::R:3
led 21 8,14::R:3
led 22 7,14::R:3
led 23 6,13::R:3
led 24 5,12::R:3
led 25 5,11::R:3
led 26 6,10::R:3
led 27 7,9::R:3
led 28 0,0:::0
led 29 0,0:::0
led 30 0,0:::0
led 31 0,0:::0


# color
color 0 0,0,0
color 1 0,255,255
color 2 0,0,255
color 3 30,0,255
color 4 60,0,255
color 5 90,0,255
color 6 120,0,255
color 7 150,0,255
color 8 180,0,255
color 9 210,0,255
color 10 240,0,255
color 11 270,0,255
color 12 300,0,255
color 13 330,0,255
color 14 0,0,0
color 15 0,0,0

# aux
aux 0 0 1 1300 1700
aux 1 1 0 900 1300
aux 2 2 0 1300 1700
aux 3 12 2 1700 2100
aux 4 0 0 900 900
aux 5 0 0 900 900
aux 6 0 0 900 900
aux 7 0 0 900 900
aux 8 0 0 900 900
aux 9 0 0 900 900
aux 10 0 0 900 900
aux 11 0 0 900 900
aux 12 0 0 900 900
aux 13 0 0 900 900
aux 14 0 0 900 900
aux 15 0 0 900 900
aux 16 0 0 900 900
aux 17 0 0 900 900
aux 18 0 0 900 900
aux 19 0 0 900 900

# adjrange
adjrange 0 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 1 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 2 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 3 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 4 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 5 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 6 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 7 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 8 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 9 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 10 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 11 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 12 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 13 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 14 0 0 900 900 0 0

# rxrange
rxrange 0 1000 2000
rxrange 1 1000 2000
rxrange 2 1000 2000
rxrange 3 1000 2000

# servo
servo 0 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
servo 1 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
servo 2 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
servo 3 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
servo 4 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
servo 5 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
servo 6 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
servo 7 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1

set mid_rc = 1500
set min_check = 1100
set max_check = 1900
set rssi_channel = 0
set rssi_scale = 30
set rc_smooth_interval_ms = 0
set rssi_ppm_invert = OFF
set input_filtering_mode = OFF
set roll_yaw_cam_mix_degrees = 0
set max_aux_channels = 6
set debug_mode = NONE
set min_throttle = 1080
set max_throttle = 2000
set min_command = 1000
set anti_desync_power_step = 0
set servo_center_pulse = 1500
set 3d_deadband_low = 1406
set 3d_deadband_high = 1514
set 3d_neutral = 1460
set 3d_deadband_throttle = 50
set unsynced_fast_pwm = OFF
set fast_pwm_protocol = ONESHOT125
set motor_pwm_rate = 400
set servo_pwm_rate = 50
set disarm_kill_switch = ON
set gyro_cal_on_first_arm = OFF
set auto_disarm_delay = 5
set small_angle = 25
set fixedwing_althold_dir = 1
set reboot_character = 82
set gps_provider = NMEA
set gps_sbas_mode = AUTO
set gps_auto_config = ON
set gps_auto_baud = OFF
set gps_wp_radius = 200
set nav_controls_heading = ON
set nav_speed_min = 100
set nav_speed_max = 300
set nav_slew_rate = 30
set serialrx_provider = SBUS
set sbus_inversion = ON
set spektrum_sat_bind = 0
set spektrum_sat_bind_autoreset = 1
set telemetry_switch = OFF
set telemetry_inversion = ON
set frsky_default_lattitude =  0.000
set frsky_default_longitude =  0.000
set frsky_coordinates_format = 0
set frsky_unit = IMPERIAL
set frsky_vfas_precision = 0
set frsky_vfas_cell_voltage = OFF
set hott_alarm_sound_interval = 5
set battery_capacity = 0
set vbat_scale = 109
set vbat_max_cell_voltage = 43
set vbat_min_cell_voltage = 33
set vbat_warning_cell_voltage = 35
set vbat_hysteresis = 1
set vbat_pid_compensation = OFF
set current_meter_scale = 400
set current_meter_offset = 0
set multiwii_current_meter_output = OFF
set current_meter_type = ADC
set align_gyro = DEFAULT
set align_acc = DEFAULT
set align_mag = DEFAULT
set align_board_roll = 0
set align_board_pitch = 0
set align_board_yaw = 90
set max_angle_inclination = 700
set gyro_lpf = OFF
set gyro_sync_denom = 2
set gyro_lowpass = 100
set moron_threshold = 32
set imu_dcm_kp = 2500
set imu_dcm_ki = 0
set alt_hold_deadband = 40
set alt_hold_fast_change = ON
set deadband = 0
set yaw_deadband = 0
set throttle_correction_value = 0
set throttle_correction_angle = 800
set yaw_control_direction = 1
set yaw_motor_direction = 1
set tri_unarmed_servo = ON
set servo_lowpass_freq = 400
set servo_lowpass_enable = OFF
set airmode_activate_throttle = 1350
set failsafe_delay = 10
set failsafe_off_delay = 10
set failsafe_throttle = 1000
set failsafe_kill_switch = OFF
set failsafe_throttle_low_delay = 100
set failsafe_procedure = ON
set rx_min_usec = 885
set rx_max_usec = 2115
set gimbal_mode = NORMAL
set acc_hardware = AUTO
set acc_lpf_hz =  10.000
set accxy_deadband = 40
set accz_deadband = 40
set acc_unarmedcal = ON
set acc_trim_pitch = 0
set acc_trim_roll = 0
set baro_tab_size = 21
set baro_noise_lpf =  0.600
set baro_cf_vel =  0.985
set baro_cf_alt =  0.965
set baro_hardware = NONE
set mag_hardware = NONE
set mag_declination = 0
set pid_process_denom = 1
set blackbox_rate_num = 1
set blackbox_rate_denom = 1
set blackbox_device = SDCARD
set magzero_x = 0
set magzero_y = 0
set magzero_z = 0
set ledstrip_visual_beeper = OFF

# rxfail
rxfail 0 a
rxfail 1 a
rxfail 2 a
rxfail 3 a
rxfail 4 h
rxfail 5 h
rxfail 6 h
rxfail 7 h
rxfail 8 h
rxfail 9 h
rxfail 10 h
rxfail 11 h
rxfail 12 h
rxfail 13 h
rxfail 14 h
rxfail 15 h
rxfail 16 h
rxfail 17 h

# profile
profile 0
############################# PROFILE VALUES ####################################

set gps_pos_p = 15
set gps_pos_i = 0
set gps_pos_d = 0
set gps_posr_p = 34
set gps_posr_i = 14
set gps_posr_d = 53
set gps_nav_p = 25
set gps_nav_i = 33
set gps_nav_d = 83
set pid_delta_method = MEASUREMENT
set yaw_p_limit = 500
set dterm_lowpass = 100
set dynamic_iterm = ON
set iterm_ignore_threshold = 180
set yaw_iterm_ignore_threshold = 35
set yaw_lowpass = 80
set pid_controller = INT
set p_pitch = 50
set i_pitch = 40
set d_pitch = 18
set p_roll = 45
set i_roll = 40
set d_roll = 18
set p_yaw = 80
set i_yaw = 45
set d_yaw = 20
set p_alt = 50
set i_alt = 0
set d_alt = 0
set p_level = 50
set i_level = 50
set d_level = 100
set p_vel = 55
set i_vel = 55
set d_vel = 75
rateprofile 0

# rateprofile
rateprofile 0

set rc_rate = 100
set rc_rate_yaw = 100
set rc_expo = 10
set rc_yaw_expo = 10
set thr_mid = 50
set thr_expo = 0
set roll_rate = 70
set pitch_rate = 70
set yaw_rate = 70
set tpa_rate = 20
set tpa_breakpoint = 1650

#

Ideoita?

Kohta se fiilis että pistän nuotioksi kaikki ja ostan taas fattomin 

[Nemo]

Joku resonanssi jota softa vahvistaa. Configuratorin kautta pyöritettäessähän ei pid-loop ole käytössä, joten voi olla hyvinkin olla jotain mekaanista värinää.  Noi uusimmat firmikset on varsinkin default filttereillä viilattu aika maksimiin ja aiheuttaa kuulemma ongelmia alustoilla jolla on värinöitä. Mää kokeilisin härskisti aluks puolittaa puolittaa kaikki pidit ja filtterit. Ja ehkä fc:n softmount.

[jesi]

Joner pääsi hajulle, kaikki pidit nolliin ja sit pärinä loppui.

Sen jälkeen Defaultit kehiin yhdelle akselille ja muille nollat, tämä jokaiselle akselille ja lopputulema oli se että kun muut nollissa paitsi yaw niin pörisee.

= joko yaw gyro hajonnut pöydällä tai sn20 ei vaan ole nähnyt tuota virhesiknaalia.

[jesi]

Tähän fc kiinni ruuveilla ja tuo bilteman punakuorisella geeli-2puoliteipillä runkoon kiinni, ny toimii hienosti!

[troyhy]

Mulla oli sama ongelma ja korjaantui Betaflightissä laittamalla D Term filter 50 ( oli 100)  en tiedä onnistuuko DF:ssä miten..

[jesi]

Koitin sitäkin, ei auttanut.

[Putte]

Ei välttämättä auta asiaa pätkän vertaa, mutta kommentoidaan nyt kun omissa DYS SEissä oli samannäköistä vapinaa ja moottorit kuumeni ihan leijuttelusta. BLhelissä Motor timing Medium -> Medium-High ja avot ongelmat loppu ku seinään.

[jesi]

Sitäkin koitettiin, mutta mun osalta ei auttanut.

Tosiaan, nyt vehkeet toimii kun softmounttasi fceen.

[Ronnie]

tarkista kaikki juotokset?
Moottorien kelloissa kaikki mangneetit niin kuin pitää?

[jesi]

Siis mun osalta ongelma korjaantui fc softmountilla.